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Ola > Am I correct in assuming that the only open source Linux device is the > Zaurus (and even worse windows mobile devices which can be hacked)? > What happened to the much promised Linux phone from Qtopia? Or the Road > 101 (which is EXACTLY what I'm looking for dammit!)? have you seen this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded it is available in bleeding edge developer alpha for gutsy. If you know how to write software for gnome hildon desktop please get involved. there is also the 770, N800 from Nokia which are basically GPL open source, apart from some power management code which is closed due to some legacy legal issues ans is being opened a.t.m []'s Ian -- "Todos os animais são iguais, mas alguns animais são mais iguais do que os outros"" http://ianlawrence.info -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html