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http://www.astroadventures.co.uk/ these people are just down the road from me - I'll make contact (and probably scare them too!) And more off topic - anyone into 'toy' rockets at all? Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html