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Apologies if anyone else has mentioned this - I didn't have time to check. You may want to contribute your thoughts to this BBC discussion : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6288119.stm Viv -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html