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Today I had some updates waiting for me (in Edgy). I saw that they included the database in OO. Last time I tried to use it I was able to create a table but the wizard for creating a form did not work. It all went along quite happily until the end when I clicked on the Finish button. This had no effect at all. Having run the updates I tried again. Same result - can create a table but the form wizard is useless. I have tried to set up a form manually but I just cannot understand what is required. If I were new to databases I would accept it, but I have written umpteen for various small companies in the past, using various Windows programs including Access and latterly using Borland's Paradox database. I had no trouble with any of them, in fact I considered myself quite expert by the end. Has anyone of the lug had any experience with Base please? Feeling very frustrated Neil Winchurst -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html