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For those into green try www.woodforgood.com http://treehugger.com/ http://ecotopia.co.uk/ http://www.freeplayenergy.com/ http://hippyshopper.com/ http://www.bpalternativenergy.com/liveassets/bp_internet/alternativenergy/in dex.html http://est.org.uk/ http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ http://www.ethiscore.org/ http://www.good-energy.co.uk/ http://www.est.org.uk/housingbuildings/funding/lowcarbonbuildings/ http://www.doctorenergy.co.uk/acatalog/INTERFLUSH.html http://www.green-trust.org/ There just aren't enough hours in the day, are there? George -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Fidell Sent: 24 November 2006 10:57 To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [LUG] Wanted: Lister or Staromatic diesel/oil engine to allow off grid laptop use M.Blackmore wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 23:12 +0000, Martinus Scriblerus wrote: > >> I wonder what Dick "It isn't easy being green" Strawbridge does? > > Well, he's got a little waterwheel for a start. I wish... > > Might be worth being in total gall mode and digging out an address and > asking the question. dick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I guess. > I somehow need to get into the "networks" for this > sort of thing and similar loonies! Where to find them... >>From memory, there's www.green-trust.org, where you can find pictures of people who have no idea about workshop safety using power tools to build wind turbines whilst wearing flip-flops and a lot else besides. Hugh Piggott's Scoraig Wind site is worth a visit, and on Yahoo groups you might search for things like homebrew power, cheap power, 12VDC power, home energy solutions, beyond cheap fuel, waste watts, solar heat, vegoil-diesel, veg oil engines, rainwater harvesting and so on, where you'll find people who seem almost normal from a distance to full-on foaming-at-the-mouth eco-nutters engaging in "my turbine's better than your turbine" flamewars. There's also the utter power website, the (merkin) Home Power magazine website, and there's a (fairly US-centric, afair) Lister(oid) web forum somewhere I can't remember right now. The Build It Solar website has some interesting ideas, too. And whilst I'm typing , it occurred to me the the other day that if you go with a battery-based setup for a CHP system, you could probably use a hefty car/truck alternator to generate the 12 volts necessary to charge the batteries. This may be lots cheaper than a 240V genhead. James -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html