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Neil Williams wrote:
Simon Williams wrote:Neil Williams wrote:Out of interest why is that?1. My compiled software is exclusively C, not C++ or anything else.Why not? http://qof.sourceforge.net/why-qof.html#lambda
Wow. That's very interesting. I'd never heard of Lambda (then again I hardly know anything about programming).
3. Even my embedded code revolves around the Gnome Palmtop Environment, not Opie (from KDE).I tried GPE on my Zaurus, but it was very inefficient and difficult to use. Opie was just so much more suited to a palmtop. GPE also seemed a bit slow to me.Early days.
I'm sure GPE could be absolutely amazing if they sorted the UI issues. Maybe they already have- I haven't tried it in quite a while. The annoying thing about Opie is that it uses Qt/E, and although it is probably faster, it doesn't run X apps. Really it should be possible to recompile any app for an arm and run it on a PDA too (with maybe some UI changes), rather than have to port it to Qt/E or whatever.
What sort of embedded software are you into?iPAQ. http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/embedded.html
I have big plans for development for the Zaurus, but can't find time, and lack the knowledge. Partly what I'm going to university for I guess.
4. I've found sufficient extensions and themes for FireFox and TBird to get the functionality I need with none of the fluff.I agree, but GTK apps never look really good.I would have thought it obvious that I don't care one jot about the "look" of software. I look for functionality alone and fluff like eye-candy puts me off. I'm happiest with vi. I principally write command line software. I avoid creating new graphics for anything (Google is my image "editor"). ;-)
Strangely enough, I much prefer command line apps (mainly because they can be used with screen and ssh). I use VIM a lot (Don't really like Vi though). Lol- Google really does do everything.
5. Functionality is more important than eye-candy. Gnome is the natural home for those of a similar disposition.Please prefix all my content with such sentiments and you'll have a better understanding of why I prefer Gnome. If you care about fluff, use something else. If you just want to get things done, use Gnome. A Desktop Environment is a tool - nothing more. I need a menu, usable window furniture (i.e. close/minimise buttons) a clear icon set and very little else. (Oh, maybe a clock.)
Not all that long ago, I much preferred ratpoison to other WMs, but found that problems with apps like the gimp (damn those multiple windows) made it difficult. Also, it was alright for a few windows, but any more than that it became inefficient, and if you need to see more than one thing at a time it gets really complicated. I never got round to trying ION properly- maybe that would be a lot better. I try to use the keyboard for as much as possible- it's far more efficient.
I use KDE now because it is aware of multiple monitors, has virtual desktops, a dual battery monitor applet, a menu that always seems to have all the apps in (gnome is always missing most of them) and supports switching between my 3 keyboard layouts fairly well.
I know KDE is somewhat inefficient eye-candy bloatware, but it justworks better out of the box for me.I find the opposite. KDE goes out of it's way to get *in* my way. Config dialogues regularly expand beyond the limits of the screen because there are simply too many options.
All hail the text config files.
I tried gnome, but gave up as soon as I found there was no simple way of making all the icons a sensible size- why are they so big? Why are they resized individually, out of scale and per pixel?Don't put icons on the desktop, that's the best choice. Besides, you can change the size in gnome-control-center although I haven't looked recently. Not something I consider particularly important. (I never seem to use desktop icons anyway.)
lol- thinking about it, I never use desktop icons either.
I'm not really sure how we got here, or where it's going. Just my 2 cents.Don't know, don't mind. If it gets even one person to think about whether their current environment is actually right for them, I'll be happy.
It's very interesting to see what other people use and why.I suppose the only solution to "the ideal desktop environment" is to write your own.
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