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Re: [LUG] Meeting to be booked by John.



Well said Neil. And it needed saying.

Now lets hope this is the end of the matter.

Bitching and carping amongst ourselves without
constructive input isn't what I or I'm sure any
one else in this group wants.

If anyone interested in GNU/Linux dipped their toe into
the lists in recent days they wouldn't have had a good
impression.

We are here to help one another and to promote the use
of GNU/Linux. We cannot change the world overnight nor
can we as small fry hope to do it alone.
By being mutually and actively constructive is the way
to show our and GNU/Linux's strength.

Keith

Neil Williams wrote:
On Tuesday 28 September 2004 6:38 pm, john wrote:

On Tuesday 28 September 2004 5:51, Simon Waters wrote:

Where were you when we were organising all the big public events?

which big public events would they be then?

http://www.dclug.org.uk/index.php Past Events

Linux Install Day - 29th April 2001 at Exeter Uni

Open Source Day - 27th April 2002 at Exeter Uni

St. Peter's School - 27th March 2003

Paignton Rugby/Cricket club 17th July 2003

Plymouth University 12th August 2003

St. Peter's School - 19th Feb 2004

August Meeting - 28th August 2004


before then, and I gotta tell you I genuinely cannot recall any big public
linux events being promoted locally at any time since then.


You weren't looking then were you? The Install Day, Open Source Day and Plymouth University meets were all big public meetings in the local area. If you want to book something the size of the NEC or the Pavilions, we'd be only to glad to come along with our four bar extension leads, switches, hubs, Cat5, laptops, headless boxes, possibly a projector and boundless enthusiasm for GNU/Linux.


I have nothing to repent so don't hold your breath expecting me to be
contrite.


Yes you have - swearing, trolling, rambling, grumbling and doing NOTHING to make anything better. When are you going to arrange a meeting or even do something constructive?


As you say talk is cheap, when are you organising the next meet?

organising meets is easy enough,


Go on then. You've got your password for the members area. Use the survey, invite people close to your area, find the venue and book it.


it is agreeing on the purpose of same that needs to come first, does it not.


Book a venue, publicise the meet, describe what services are available and we'll sort out what happens later. If you want to print off leaflets and pay for local publicity, fine, on your head be it.


haven't seen anything approaching a consensus


The majority of people on the list are lurking. When someone publicises a meeting they would like to attend, they'll respond. If we waited for everyone or even more than just a handful of people to agree on an agenda, the meeting will never happen. We've tried it. The best attended meetings happen within 7-10 days of the first post to the list discussing a possible meeting - like the one you've been carping about all this time. Strike while the iron is hot and people make time for the meeting. Book something that's months away and everyone gets cold feet, other things crop up and attendance crashes.

Still, some of the v.quiet meetings have been the best. We had a really good meeting that was only attended by 7 people. It was an excellent social event - got to make a few friends and put faces to emails.

Before you can bring off a polished marketing spin for Joe Public, you need to make friends and influence people amongst the existing group. Know who you can rely on to configure the network, setup the demonstrators, sort out unusual protocols going through the firewall and allow time for setup. Or are you a one-mand-band? Do you want any technical help?


that there should be an installathon and intent to participare from people, because we are still
discussing the relative issues innit.


Wasting time. Get on and book something.



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