Re: [LUG] Laptops anyone?

[Gary Stringer <G.B.Stringer at exeter.ac.uk>]

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Curiouser and curiouser...

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:21:58 -0000 Kelly Jones <kj at kellyjones.worldonline.co.uk> wrote:

> cheers for the reply, i don't have any pc cards so it can't be that
> the hibernation file must exist as it suspends properly from windows and i
> noticed a fairly large drop in disk space after i installed IBM's T'Pad
> software
> I have also heard about problems with the floppy drive but my problem exists
> at all times, i have never been able to successfully resume after entering
> suspend or hibernation.

The problem I had with the floppy was again prventing suspend rather than affecting the 
resume - I recompiled the kernel with the floppy driver as a module, then made sure the 
module was unloaded when I hit suspend. 

> if i shut the lid the whole pc freezes
> How do i check the kernel version, i am using Mandrake 7.2 which i
> understood had the latest kernel

You can check the version by typing 'uname -a'. The version is directly after the 
hostname, and should probably be 2.2.17 or so. 

Is it an early 560 model? Some of the earlier ones had bugs in the BIOS - you can get an 
upgrade, but it's a bit airy installing it, if it goes wrong, you might have to replace 
the system board (eeek). To check the version, hold F1 as the system boots and look at 
the BIOS date. Mine's sometime in 1997...

The only other thing I can think of at the moment is that the X-server is crashing; have 
you tried suspending from a text console? If that works, then X is not recovering from 
the suspend. 




> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Stringer" <G.B.Stringer at exeter.ac.uk>
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> Subject: Re: [LUG] Laptops anyone?
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> > On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:28:55 -0000 Kelly Jones
> <kj at kellyjones.worldonline.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > I see you mentioned an IBM thinkpad 560, i have mandrake 7.2 running on
> my
> > > thinkpad but i can't get suspend to work.
> > > The laptop suspends ok but is locked up when i resume, CTRL, ALT,
> BACKSPACE
> > > does nothing and i have also tried manually suspending from a command
> line
> > > but this still locks up the machine.
> > > I would be grateful if you could shed any light on this as apart from
> that
> > > Linux runs very well and it is the only thing stopping me from running
> Linux
> > > all the time.
> >
> > Hmmm, is it a 560? This seems different to the problems I had - mine
> wouldn't go into
> > suspend at all. I did get a similar effect when I used wdm rather than
> xdm, but that was
> > on startup. I got round it by switching bvack to
> >
> > Couple of things to check:
> >
> >   1. Are you ejecting pcmcia cards before suspending?
> >   2. Is it trying to use a non-existent hibernation file (eg Redisafe)?
> >   3. Does it only happen after using the floppy drive, or does it not work
> after every
> > suspend?
> >
> > There's a few more things worth trying - get back to me with more details
> (eg kernel
> > version and config) and I'll have a poke around in my archives...
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gary Stringer" <G.B.Stringer at exeter.ac.uk>
> > > To: <lug-list at area51.termisoc.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 5:40 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Laptops anyone?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Simon,
> > > >
> > > > I've been 'lurking' on the lug-list for a while, so thought I'd come
> out
> > > of the woodwork
> > > > on this one ... I've been running Debian on an ancient and venerable
> IBM
> > > ThinkPad 560 for
> > > > about three years (just upgraded to a 2.4 kernel).
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 17:01:21 +0000 Simon Waters
> > > <Simon at wretched.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just stuck Linux on my Laptop (Acer Travelmate 200DX) despite the...
> > > >
> > > > There's a few useful web pages dedicated to linux laptops, try:
> > > >
> > > >     http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
> > > >     http://mobilix.org/Mobile-Guide.db/Mobile-Guide.html
> > > >
> > > > And specifically for the Travelmate 200 series:
> > > >
> > > >     http://www.earth.ox.ac.uk/~steve/travelmate/
> > > >
> > > > X is always a pig to set up on laptops; it's usually easiest to find
> > > someone who's done
> > > > it already on your make/model and steal their Xconfig...
> > > >
> > > > The other thing that I found messy was suspend/hibernate, but that's
> > > because ThinkPads
> > > > are a bit non-standard on that front, I think. It took a lot of
> tinkering
> > > to get it
> > > > working, but now it's far more stable than the windows
> suspend/hibernate
> > > ;-) Support for
> > > > laptops has steadily improved over the last few years.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck, and keep persevering!
> > > >
> > > > Gary
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