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> You can't measure the temperature because you have been let-down by a PC > maker Well yes. Clearly they've used a sign 8-bit char where they shouldn't, and also clearly, they don't intend fixing it! Annoying, but I'll probably relocate the sensor to inside the case and pretend ambient means something different... > - or your running a PC outside their recommended limits - it's For a manufacturer to insist on a safe working range of +10c to +35c is very restrictive, I think. And without any basis. Like you, I've run kit in all kinds of unsuitable locations and generally things behave very well. > Years ago when I was involved with the Buckfastleigh (& Cambourne & Penwith) > Wi-Fi broadband projects I had servers/routers in all sorts of weird places > - fortunately they were hand-built Linux PCs, so I was able to make sure > that they'd work - one was in a sealed box at the top of the lift-shaft in The box this replaces was hand-built. Generally I'm moving away from them now because HP in particular sell well made robust servers cheaper than I can screw the bits together for. Irony being I wanted this box specifically for the ILO, and that was what shut it down. :/ > register temperatures of 50-60C... One was in an open barn on a farm 1100' > up on Dartmoor - that got down to -10 at one point - the PC was OK - the > biggest issue there was snow filling up the microwave dishes and blocking > transmissions. Heh, excellent. Of my kit, I've noticed D-Link poe splitters don't like anything much below -5c and tend to shut up shop, but tp-link and others are happy. And I've yet to have a computer die in the uk climate apart from artificial reasons like this. > it stopped one day - the owners (of the shed) said it looked like it was > powered up, but was smelling funny - so a trip down and we found that a > mouse had gotten inside somehow then decided to exit via the fan and > promptly shredded itself.... The server must have carried on working for > some time - long enough for the mouse to start rotting which shorted > something out on the motherboard... Nice! The Register has a gallery of pictures of things like this. Not good on a full stomach or if you care about computers. > Computers in weird places... Nah, just don't do it! Needs must! I used to use a BBS in Dawlish through the 90s that ran in the guy's loft. I recall a message he sent once after not hearing from him for ages - "Oh, I forgot it was still running..." -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq