[LUG]Re: UCEPROTECT, blacklists and hosting servers

[stinga via list <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 20/12/2022 19:38, Paul Sutton via list wrote:

> On
>       20/12/2022 11:31, Simon Avery wrote:
>       
> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 at 22:39, Michael
> >         Everitt <michael@xxxxxxxxxx
> >         <mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >         
> >         
> >             TL;DR whilst its very convenient to use eg. gmail,
> >         Micro$soft,
> >         
> >             Apple, et al, it has
> >         
> >             always been possible to run your own mail system. Also, you
> >         have
> >         
> >             greater control and
> >         
> >             flexibility how it runs and accepts/rejects mail(!). It's
> >         not hard
> >         
> >             to deal with spam,
> >         
> >             there are a few tools/techniques you need to use to make it
> >         work,
> >         
> >             and keep the Other
> >         
> >             mail servers "happy".
> >         
> >         
> >         
> >         Thanks for linking an interesting article, but I'm afraid I'm
> >         not as enthusiastic as yourself, having done this a few times
> >         over the years. The article's perspective is one that surfaces
> >         quite often and is usually quite strongly presented. "Mail is
> >         not hard" is indeed a true statement, and it's an excellent
> >         project to learn and have fun with, and anyone thinking of doing
> >         this absolutely should - because it teaches you so much about
> >         the problems of running an internet facing mail server. I've
> >         been running mail systems (Fidonet, UUCP before email) privately
> >         and professionally for well over three decades, so I've got some
> >         experience of how not to do it.
> >         
> >         
> >         So - why do I use Gmail for my personal email?
> >         
> >         
> >         Because it works. Because its spam controls are extremely
> >         effective. Because my account is reasonably secure. Because I
> >         don't need to spend a lot of time keeping it working.
> >         
> >       
>       
>       I am using disroot for e-mail (https://www.disroot.org) it works
>       fine, granted you don't get a huge amount of storage but do you
>       need that much if you manage e-mails and delete unwanted stuff for
>       example.
>       
>       
>       Disroot has other services such as cloud integration and I think
>       they have cryptpad now which is more for collaboration / cloud, 
>       as well as etherpads for working collaboratively
>       
>       
>       Paul
>       
>       
>       
>     
    G'day all,
    
    I have used sendmail in the past now using postfix. Hardly get any
    spam either. Don't think I would ever use gmail (I do have a google
    account though for my android phone)
    I am in two minds, I have told people to just use gmail as it is
    simple for non tech people and gets them away from MS products and
    ISP tied email addresses.
    But I do prefer having my own email server for my email.
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