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Re: [LUG] Website and Volunteers was Re: IRC: Freenode -> Libera

 



I've found the content helpful, and the contact entries are needed for a LUG to exist these days - those buttons to all those social media locations are essential once the choice has been made to have a presence on each platform. Perhaps the group should shun social media but I can't for the life of me see why. They're ideal places for first contact.

I'm pleased there's a visible and accessible local LUG where people within meeting distance and a mutual interest can make arrangements. I doubt it could be done on Tindr though trying might be a novel experience for Linux users.

We do have twitter, there is a LinkedIn group and also an account on Mastodon. Ideally any blog posts would also be sent out on social media or at least Twitter and Mastodon.

Copyright notice issue also noted. Again something that needs to be addressed.

With regard to people contributing articles should we come up with a simple template that can be used by anyone on the list, then sent to a web team for the article to be added to the schedule. Could be a set of html tags e.g

<b>TITLE HERE IN BOLD</b>
<p> content 1</p>
<p> content 2</p>

etc.

How often should we make posts?  A few times a week, weekly?


Regards

Paul




On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 15:19, Grant Phillips-Sewell <dcglug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dcglug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Apologies for the top-posting... Gmail on Android is making it
    harder and harder to bottom-post replies.

    My 2p. If we're sticking with WordPress to power the website, I've
    been using the freely available Neve theme for most of the sites
    I've put together for clients. It is pretty flexible theme, with
    lots of customisation options, and works nicely with various "page
    builders" - I tend to use Elementor because it is easy to use, and I
    make it clear to my customers that the whole point is that *they*
    are able to create content themselves, and make it look pretty,
    without much involvement from me.

    Grant. :)

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2021, 21:52 Paul Sutton via list, <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        On 17/06/2021 14:25, Michael Everitt wrote:
         > See below (per netiquette)...
         >
         > On 17/06/2021 13:25, Simon Waters wrote:
         >> First I'd like to thank Paul for his work on the website,
        and for his other
         >> work organising and promoting the group, and hope he will
        continue in both.
         >>
         >> We've had a number of threads over the years about the
        website, but the upshot
         >> has generally been a burst of interest, and then it has
        gradually declined
         >> until it is just or mostly Paul again. We've had
        contributions from Ron and
         >> Matthew this year, otherwise all the posts on the website
        are from Paul, and
         >> they cover everything from NCSC hardening guidance for
        Ubuntu LTS to local
         >> coding events. The content is relevant, interesting, and
        contributed
         >> consistently by Paul.
         >>
         >> I'm as guilty of leaving it to Paul as others, possibly more
        so, as whilst
         >> I've sorted the occasional problem, I've left Paul without
        the benefits of any
         >> relevant experience I may have most of the time. I also have
        outstanding
         >> maintenance activities relating to the site to do.
         >>
         >> That said the current criticism seems to be based on
        aesthetics, and the
         >> belief that because a product is owned by Microsoft it must
        be inherently evil
         >> (although most geeks seem to except GitHub for some reason).
         >>
         >> (No I've not seen the site on a 4K monitor, and I'm pretty
        sure Paul won't
         >> have either, feel free to email screenshots to
        admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> - I know
         >> the heading text scales up rather keenly on my monitor at
        full size).
         >>
         >> The WordPress tracker is the only tracker, and the only
        statistics provided to
         >> anyone on the website (since my own log analysis code fell
        into disrepair). My
         >> browser (Brave) blocks this tracker by default, an approach
        I suggest to those
         >> who are worried about being tracked on the web.
         >>
         >> The website doesn't pull in huge numbers of views, so I
        don't think it merits
         >> huge attention. It was being used to update various social
        media sites about
         >> activities of the group, and I think that is a reasonable
        use, and something
         >> that the current tooling allows.
         >>
         >> If we want the group to thrive, we need to organize more
        meetings & events, at
         >> which point the tooling to support them will I'm sure
        receive more love and
         >> attention. We've always taken a relaxed (anarchic?) approach
        to organising
         >> meetings, any member can organise a meeting, and promote it
        through the
         >> mailing list, and the website. Since meetings are currently
        largely virtual
         >> this doesn't even require a room (which was the usual
        problem with organising
         >> physical  meetings).  Although best to co-ordinate these,
        usually Paul was
         >> that co-ordinator, as he could say when other meetings that
        might conflict were
         >> taking place, and I hope he is happy to continue doing that.
         >>
         >> More generally we may have too many groups and social media
        sites, with too
         >> little content. Again the best fix for that is for other
        people to help
         >> organise events or contribute relevant content.
         >>
         > I've offered to help Paul out in the past, and he gave me a
        logon, which I still
         > have. Alas, when I started looking at ways to change theme,
        etc, I don't have the
         > admin privileges to make structural changes to the site.
        Since then, my time has
         > become somewhat more precious, but if there are specific
        changes that are desired,
         > I'm happy to dive in and poke things. I'm doing some webadmin
        work for another
         > project, so effort wouldn't be wasted ..
         >
         > Without prejudice, I know that seabass has become quite an
        active community member
         > here, and has been regularly updating the IRC channel
        information with meeting times,
         > etc, and perhaps might like to contribute too, if he had an
        'editor'/etc such role,
         > as time/etc permits? Throwing out an invite to contribute
        rather than chucking the
         > poor fella under the bus, but I think as a team we might be
        able to do some
         > improvements, even if Paul remains the 'main man' so-to-speak...
         >
         > WDYT?!
         >
         >
        Hi all

        I don't have a problem adding content, in fact just added a post
        for the
        July meeting, scheduled for July 1st.  I am  happy to still do
        that.
        Hopefully physical meetings can resume soon too.

        What we have determined, is that we need a small team of people
        to help
        handle the admin, choose a fresh theme (which we are discussing on
        #DCGLUG-website, we then need to add more content. Either pages or
        posts.  So we need to work out what we want from content for
        example.

        I guess within that we need content that would suit beginners,
        intermediate and advanced users.  But should that be general IT
        stuff too?

        How do / can we make that more engaging, should there be a
        'template' as
        such for posts, so they look more uniform or at least have some
        'core'
        information for example such as a link back to the website ?

        In terms of meetings:-

        I am still be involved in code club (or will be), and a tech jam
        type
        event in Paignton.

        We probably need to decide on what we would like,  I agree with
        Simon we
        need more physical meets / events.

        So lets all work together and make the LUG more attractive to
        people.

        Hope this helps and thank you.

        Regards

        Paul




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