Re: [LUG] Freenode (and matrix bridge) murdered by bot

[Nick B via list <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm vote libera since I've already moved. Freenode were impertinent and 
cannot now be trusted.

Nick (SpeccyMan)


On 27/05/2021 9:02 am, Tom via list wrote:
> On 26/05/2021 20:22, Gordon Henderson wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 May 2021, Simon Avery wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 12:03, Gordon Henderson <gordon+lug@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > My view is that since Freenode is now unreliable and unstable that 
> > > > people
> > > > should move elsewhere anyway. The reasons and motives of the current
> > > > owners and admins are still unclear to me and probably will remain so.
> > > I agree. Freenode today is not what it was a couple of weeks ago. 
> > > Most of
> > > the projects I follow have moved off, either to Libera or Matrix or
> > > elsewhere.
> > >
> > > I hold a dim view of today's action where they arbitrarily decided 
> > > that the
> > > word "libera" was banned in Freenode's topics. That shows poor 
> > > management
> > > and, frankly, spiteful and unprofessional administration.
> > >
> > > Frankly, I don't trust Freenode any longer and will likely be 
> > > removing it
> > > from my clients after at least 11 years.
> > >
> > > I think my preference is to move to the libera irc network, where the
> > > #dcglug channel already exists, and perhaps bridge that to Matrix to 
> > > allow
> > > for slightly more modern clients. (Bridges are a mixed bag, but in a 
> > > low
> > > traffic channel it might work)
> >
> > Just to add to the confusion - earlier today the #dcglug channel was 
> > reinstated - I think 'seabass' did some asking, so for now it appears 
> > to be back to more or less what it was.
> >
> > However... Having done something that caused a lot of unhappiness and 
> > mis-trust once, I ask myself if I trust them to not do it again?
> >
> > I'm not sure I do.
> >
> > But - before any actions are taken by us - I really would like to ask 
> > the members here for their feedback. I do not know how many people 
> > lurk here, but if you have a view either way, please drop a line 
> > here, or to myself personally if you don't want to post (if you trust 
> > me!) and I'll keep a rough tally. I'm writing this on Wednesday 
> > evening, so lets see if we can come to a concensus by Friday evening.
> >
> > Gordon
> I's suggest Libera - simply to piss freenode off a bit more. That'll 
> learn them!
>
> Is anyone here interested in setting up a redundant DCGLUG controlled 
> version via DDNS. It strikes me that something this low bandwidth 
> could be set up on a few home machines in the DNZ with a PiZero W 
> hanging off the router. Publish all the details for others to get it 
> working and improve and then move on to add Jitsi (not on a zero 
> obviously). I just feel we give too much to others that we should 
> control ourselves.
>
> Tom te tom te tom

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