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On Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:19:51 BST comrade meowski wrote: > > Then you'll be pleased to hear they've been in the news _again_ since then! > > - A Feature on Zoom Secretly Displayed Data From People’s LinkedIn Profiles > (https://it.slashdot.org/story/20/04/02/1457254/a-feature-on-zoom-secretly-d > isplayed-data-from-peoples-linkedin-profiles) Eeek. > At this point it's not even worth keeping count. I feel kind of bad for > them at this point even though I'm not quite sure why (their userbase > and stock market value just keep climbing). Having gone from the naive to battle hardened far too quickly, I'm afraid few stock prices are permanently damaged by computer security issues (except for credit monitoring companies and then only if they spend too much money on making sure they don't get hacked again). As the guy who said "use Jitsi or Wire...." back a bit, I think the anti-Zoom sentiment may be over blown too. It is dreadful, but is it really that much more dreadful than much of the other gratis proprietary software? I went over some of the chat and video chat products for client work in the last job, including rocket chat + Jitsi and Wire, as well as some for internal use (Slack, Jabber, Webex etc) - although I didn't get to do a deep dive on Wire as no client wanted to pay me to do the work at the time (I was keen....). Whilst there was a tonne of variation, the main take away for me was most of the bigger products were built across multiple stacks of software, and even where some of those were pretty solid, almost all of the products had darker corners of less loved software. (Hence Wire being fresh implementation and relatively small footprint all in one language looking attractive). I think the messaging needs to be clear from us. Zoom has issues. Jitsi is relatively clean, simple, free software, well inspected, we think a robust and simple alternative choice without those issues for many common use cases. Other solutions exist if you are prepared to pay money, including free software solutions, that offer stronger security guarantee. Other free software solutions exist which integrate Jitsi (or that use the same WebRTC technology, but they may not be as mature as Jitsi). If you are prepared to compromise on freedom (and possibily privacy), other solutions exist from Facebook, Apple, Google, Cisco, Microsoft & others. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dcglug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq