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Re: [LUG] Teaching Linux

 


On 18/03/2019 10:17, Eion MacDonald wrote:
> 
> 
> On 18/03/2019 08:59, Neil wrote:
>> Recently I have met a couple of people who use Linux. I have also been
>> approached by some others about getting them started on it. This has got
>> me thinking about what would be involved in training someone to use it.
>>
>> Without going into unnecessary details, I soon came to realise that it
>> would involve quite a lot of time and effort to make a good job of it.
>> (And I would want to do it properly.) Or so it seems to me.
>>
>> So I am wondering if anyone on the list is involved in teaching Linux.
>> And, if so, what kind of experience they have had. I myself am thinking
>> of just one or two people at home, (theirs or mine) but perhaps there
>> are members out there who do it in a more formal way.
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>> Neil
>>
> 
> I teach Linux to folk who have used Windows in the past and they do not
> want to buy a new computer or have inherited old computers from family.
> E.G. Granddad1 got a vista computer from son.
> I teach one - to -one at local library on Windows 10 Library machine and
> my own openSUSE machine or in group at U3A (where I have 3 or 4 older
> machines on various distros).
> Also one-to-one with neighbours, (2 folk) but as they can easily see my
> machine it is easier than U3A or library as they have a ready helpdesk
> (me) available.
> 
> I usually take two basic steps.
> 1) Do they have any data (documents/photos etc) on Windows that they
> need to keep. If so copy to a USB external memory key.
> 2) Check RAM available. If 2 Gb or less this reduces the system distros
> you can use.
> 
> I demonstrate a Linux system using two machines:
>  a) My own dual boot Windows 10 and openSUSE Leap15 XFCE windows
> environment on external USD 1TB hard disc, which keeps Windows 10
> intact. If connected at start up it loads openSUSE LEAP15, if not it
> loads windows 10.
> b) an older machine with Xubuntu 64 bit. or a machine with Ubuntu or
> Linux Mint
> 
> 3. Once I am happy that their machine can load a 64 bit Linux distro, i
> ask if they want to wipe Windows and use Linux Only (This is case in 90%
> of folk).
> 
> I have found most folk want to use the Xubuntu LTS version.
> 
> 4. Hardest tasks
> 4.1 Teaching how to download a Live Linux distro and put on DVD to
> update versions each year. This is why I favour the Ubuntu(s) LTS versions.
> They will get a few years use before needing to update.
> 
> If OpenSUSE make sure you set up the video  extras such as Packman
> Repository for video codecs and load VLC video player.
> 
> 4.2 Second hardest task, making sure they can access Wifi and have a
> Ethernet connection wire in their house for updates.
> Knowing how to re-set Wifi access.
> 4.3 Update is easy once they have a good connection.
> This habit started as Windows updates over wifi were a problem, so I
> teach update when connected by ethernet.
>  (I do not like downloading distro update DVDs over WiFi)
> 
> 4.4 Simple problem. Ensuring they know how to get back to a UK keyboard.
> 
> 5 Then normal tasks:
> 5.1 Browsing.
> With Firefox the old ones appreciate the private browsing option.
> Install uBlock.
> Also install Google Chromium, as they might have used on Windows and it
> is an easy way into Gmail webmail.
> 
> 5.2  Email;
> Web email  first
> Then teach use of Thunderbird.
> 
> 5.3   Separate user for visitors (grandsons etc)
> 
> 5.4 .  Simple document composing, letters etc in LibreOffice and how to
> save it as a PDF to send over email.
> 
> 6. Users like an introduction to YouTube, and TED talks.
> Some want to use BBC iPlayer (they do not have recent smart TVs)
> 
>  I use YouTube videos for teaching those who can use it (longer than 15
> minute attention spans)
> 
> 7 Youngsters.
> They like introduction to ProtonMail for email with their boy/girl
> friends without Google etc reading and absorbing their data.
> They also use smart phone messaging apps.
> 
> Also of course get requests for how to use TOR from some youngsters and
> at least one senior.
> 
> 8. Elderly
> Memory.
> The use of Thunderbird for email helps the use of different passwords
> for email. As enter password on each web mail entry can cause problem.
> 
> I find they are not so sure of using a password manager.
> "What if I need to get my daughter to open up an email on their computer
> to help me!)
> 
> I always set up a Libreoffice document with a list of their
> user-names/passwords for each service in an 'encrypted document' with
> password as their house address.  E.g. "32DamLane-Damville"   This is
> saved onto their desktop, and a copy put in documents on /home.
> 
> I trust this helps. If you need any more  contact me on or off list.
> Off list email  maceion at gmail doc com
> 
Thanks Eion

Some really good advice there,  I use protonmail too.  With protonmail
to use smtp/pop you need to pay for that feature webmail is the default
option, but you do get a VPN feature.

Another plan could be to introduce people to disroot,  that has pop /
smtp features (secure).   But you also get cloud storage, limited but
useful for a few files.  Uses webdav so you can link directly to the
Linux filemanager.

Disroot a few other features too, pastebin for example. All with a
single sign in.


Paul



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