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On 08/05/17 20:12, Pentiddy wrote: yes I did manage to get some sort of playback > by dropping the video file into a VLC window... It's a bit hard to figure out what you mean by that... I bet you've even got hidden files and extensions turned off in Thunar as well. Are you drag+dropping a .VOB file from the DVD after it's mounted to VLC? Might even need a screenshot of what exactly's going on to make sense of it. Belay that for the moment though. > Not up the jargon- what do you meanwhen you say "your laptop's Bay > Trail series SoC isn't exactly the strongest performer - to put it mildly"? "Bay Trail" is just Intel's codename for a family of its combined SoC (system on a chip) products one of which is the main computing muscle inside your laptop. They tend to focus on low power efficiency rather than old fashioned brute force - nothing wrong with that of course, especially in a laptop. Nobody could accuse a Bay Trail of system of being "powerful" however. I wonder if it's just a corrupt CSS key of all things? What does this show: ls -alhR ~/.dvdcss The output of that might be *really* long so if it is, pipe it to a file first and then attach it. For example: ls -alhR ~/.dvdcss > ~/Desktop/baytrail.dvdcss.listing Cheers -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq