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Re: [LUG] OT: VDSL (Fibre) Modem

 

Best suggestion I can give, is to check the exchange... AND phone the ISP(s).

A couple of sites to help with checking your exchange:
https://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search

http://www.telephone-exchange.co.uk/test.php?TelNo=0

In my case these listed my exchange as having fibre waaaay before the ISP confirmed 
that I could actually get it (as a product).

And no-one should be paying for 2x ISPs (unless you have 2 lines of course...)


-----Original Message-----
From: list [mailto:list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Croft Redditch 
Linux Mint
Sent: 05 February 2016 10:07
To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Sarah Croft
Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: VDSL (Fibre) Modem

asking for my sister , can she get fibre for the youth group she works for in 
Buckfastleigh still working on getting the existing isp's (for some reason they 
paying for 2 isp).

sarah - Sarah Croft <scroft20@xxxxxxxxx>

mark

On 5 February 2016 at 09:30, Joseph Bennie <jay@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 5 Feb 2016, at 09:02, Tremayne, Steve 
> <steven.tremayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> OK, thanks â good to know.
>
> This is where I now reveal my slight naivety to fibre broadbandâ if my 
> supplier is non-BT (say, Zenâ if only I could afford itâ), then do I 
> still get BT equipment supplied?
>
>
>
> It depends on the local network and if your getting FTTP or FTTC,
>
> If FTTP (fiber to the premises) like me I'd assume yes the device on 
> the wall will be BT and is the modern equivalent to the RJ11 jack box. 
> but its a fully digital device with 2 RJ11 and one RJ45. The RJ11's 
> have vop phone numbers but using conventional phones or pbax.
>
> If FTTC (fiber to the cabinet)  you'll just use a standard vsdl/adsl 
> modem and have a modified RJ11 jack box with a specialised filter 
> installed, in which case you can plug the draytek in directly as it 
> can replace the ISP plastic.
>
> VSDL and ADSL essentially work in the same way from a consumer POV.
>
>
>
> My original reason for going with a Draytek router (years ago), was 
> due to ISP provided ADSL routers, which are similar to the plastic 
> toys that came in breakfast cereals ;)
>
>
> :) agreed, however current BT devices will be significantly quicker 
> than the older draytek, The BT and virgin devices are designed for 
> 300-900mbps throughputs. where are the draytek will be around 
> 20-40mbps througput. (as will some cheaper home/soho products think 
> sub 100 )
>
> Note: throughput is the speed it can internally process data, not the 
> speed on the wire.
>
>
> So â my current ISP (Plusnet) are offering a free âmagic boxâ â Iâm 
> presuming that is a VDSL router â OR â is it a simple router and I 
> would still have the BT white box?
>
>
>
> it will depend on if its FTTP or FTTC , I'm guessing it will be FTTC 
> :(
>
>
> Concerning the âstock BT Black Modemâ you mention â is that referring 
> to an additional BT router? From my previous attempts at setting up 
> DDNS, port forwarding, VPNs and other functions in the past â Iâve 
> never got on with the BT equipmentâ againâ switching to something else was always 
> preferable.
>
>
>
> you can rethink that. but again their devices are heavily modified to 
> keep the consumer end simple. That said the complexity of the setup 
> when using other devices means you really do need to know what to do. Its a trade 
> off.
>
> But, Iâm all earsâ
>
>
>
> My gut is alway work directly with BT or Virgin, while BT can be 
> incredibly slow at getting the install done, both just work once there are done.
>
> Unless you have bad copper between the box in the road and the house. 
> ... in which case consider having it replaced.
>
>
> From: list [mailto:list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Bennie
> Sent: 05 February 2016 08:54
> To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: VDSL (Fibre) Modem
>
> Bt will supply a white box fixed to the wall with a battery backup. 
> Its a simple fiber to ethernet bridge
>
> The output from that box is tcp/ip ethernet - connect to it and set up 
> you pppoe connection.
>
>
> If using static ranges:
> I strongly suggest using the stock BT Black Modem as the ip forwarding 
> is a total pain and the stock routers have all the difficult stuff per 
> configured.
> All you need to do is connect to the 1gb port on the router and assign 
> the static to your pfsence, and all an allow all all rule to the bt firewall.
>
> if only using the dynamic ip, or a single static:
> Connect the pfsence directly and configure pppoe on the pfSense.
>
>
>
>
> On 5 Feb 2016, at 08:13, Tremayne, Steve 
> <steven.tremayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> OK, so, my exchange is now joining the fibre-enabled world and Iâd 
> like to skip the router/modem and make better use of my pfSense 
> firewall by connecting it to the fibre directly â via a VDSL Modem.
>
> OK, I know itâs a BSD device, but itâs almost Linux :)
>
> Iâm a big fan of Draytek for their router/modems â but as Iâve seen 
> some good *DSL advise on this forum, I thought Iâd see what opinions 
> there were about VDSL modemsâ any recommendations? Anything to avoid?
>
> If the finances can afford it, Iâd like to go for the 80Mb line â 
> basically so that I get a better upload rate whilst Iâm working away 
> from home (all too often at the moment) â so Iâm guessing that the 
> throughput can be an issue with these things?
>
> Any other advice?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
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