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asking for my sister , can she get fibre for the youth group she works for in Buckfastleigh still working on getting the existing isp's (for some reason they paying for 2 isp). sarah - Sarah Croft <scroft20@xxxxxxxxx> mark On 5 February 2016 at 09:30, Joseph Bennie <jay@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On 5 Feb 2016, at 09:02, Tremayne, Steve <steven.tremayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > OK, thanks â good to know. > > This is where I now reveal my slight naivety to fibre broadbandâ if my > supplier is non-BT (say, Zenâ if only I could afford itâ), then do I still > get BT equipment supplied? > > > > It depends on the local network and if your getting FTTP or FTTC, > > If FTTP (fiber to the premises) like me I'd assume yes the device on the > wall will be BT and is the modern equivalent to the RJ11 jack box. but its a > fully digital device with 2 RJ11 and one RJ45. The RJ11's have vop phone > numbers but using conventional phones or pbax. > > If FTTC (fiber to the cabinet) you'll just use a standard vsdl/adsl modem > and have a modified RJ11 jack box with a specialised filter installed, in > which case you can plug the draytek in directly as it can replace the ISP > plastic. > > VSDL and ADSL essentially work in the same way from a consumer POV. > > > > My original reason for going with a Draytek router (years ago), was due to > ISP provided ADSL routers, which are similar to the plastic toys that came > in breakfast cereals ;) > > > :) agreed, however current BT devices will be significantly quicker than the > older draytek, The BT and virgin devices are designed for 300-900mbps > throughputs. where are the draytek will be around 20-40mbps througput. (as > will some cheaper home/soho products think sub 100 ) > > Note: throughput is the speed it can internally process data, not the speed > on the wire. > > > So â my current ISP (Plusnet) are offering a free âmagic boxâ â Iâm > presuming that is a VDSL router â OR â is it a simple router and I would > still have the BT white box? > > > > it will depend on if its FTTP or FTTC , I'm guessing it will be FTTC :( > > > Concerning the âstock BT Black Modemâ you mention â is that referring to an > additional BT router? From my previous attempts at setting up DDNS, port > forwarding, VPNs and other functions in the past â Iâve never got on with > the BT equipmentâ againâ switching to something else was always preferable. > > > > you can rethink that. but again their devices are heavily modified to keep > the consumer end simple. That said the complexity of the setup when using > other devices means you really do need to know what to do. Its a trade off. > > But, Iâm all earsâ > > > > My gut is alway work directly with BT or Virgin, while BT can be incredibly > slow at getting the install done, both just work once there are done. > > Unless you have bad copper between the box in the road and the house. ... in > which case consider having it replaced. > > > From: list [mailto:list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Bennie > Sent: 05 February 2016 08:54 > To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: VDSL (Fibre) Modem > > Bt will supply a white box fixed to the wall with a battery backup. Its a > simple fiber to ethernet bridge > > The output from that box is tcp/ip ethernet - connect to it and set up you > pppoe connection. > > > If using static ranges: > I strongly suggest using the stock BT Black Modem as the ip forwarding is a > total pain and the stock routers have all the difficult stuff per > configured. > All you need to do is connect to the 1gb port on the router and assign the > static to your pfsence, and all an allow all all rule to the bt firewall. > > if only using the dynamic ip, or a single static: > Connect the pfsence directly and configure pppoe on the pfSense. > > > > > On 5 Feb 2016, at 08:13, Tremayne, Steve <steven.tremayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > OK, so, my exchange is now joining the fibre-enabled world and Iâd like to > skip the router/modem and make better use of my pfSense firewall by > connecting it to the fibre directly â via a VDSL Modem. > > OK, I know itâs a BSD device, but itâs almost Linux :) > > Iâm a big fan of Draytek for their router/modems â but as Iâve seen some > good *DSL advise on this forum, I thought Iâd see what opinions there were > about VDSL modemsâ any recommendations? Anything to avoid? > > If the finances can afford it, Iâd like to go for the 80Mb line â basically > so that I get a better upload rate whilst Iâm working away from home (all > too often at the moment) â so Iâm guessing that the throughput can be an > issue with these things? > > Any other advice? > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq > > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq > -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq