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On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 23:01:59 +0000, Simon Waters <simon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >Does occur to me there is inconsistency in people who want to ensure >privacy, using extreme measures on their computer, and then use a >landline that sends their phone messages unencrypted across copper >wires strung along the side of the building and across the >countryside, and a telephone provider who records what number they >call, when and for how long... > Personally, I think trying to secure yourself from the likes of GCHQ is a pointless (and probably impossible) exercise. It is pretty obvious they are storing all our phone and internet activity and to be honest so what? My disagreement with that is I don't think it works as a method of stopping terrorism and is a waste of money rather than the infringement of civil liberties aspect. Same thing with Cameron's stupid fight against encryption. He doesn't seem to realise that internet commerce depends 100% on encryption and if the government has a back-door then so does every other government and criminal group out there. My own approach is largely aimed at protection from criminal activity. If I can block scam calls, filter out spam/malware then all the better. I also think limiting the data you give to companies (or they just collect without your knowledge) is a good idea as that data will inevitably become public at some stage and therefore available to criminals. There was a story in the Herald Express last week about someone sitting outside the home of the Krankies :) in Torquay, hacking their (I assume insecure) Wi-Fi, getting their bank details and stealing some cash. This wouldn't stop me using Wi-Fi but it does make me more interested in keeping it as secure as I can. Kevin -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq