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Ie a jumble sale where we all bring our junk and not so junk. We swap it, perhaps give some money into the pot for a good cause and then even agree who's going to take the unwanted stuff up to the scrap man or even the tip? I keep that odd 9v 300mA PSU becasue it is too good to throw out, but if someone wants it I would be happy. And we could choose a good cause (perhaps a charity like Adumasa, or even just LUG to get some pennies for the priveledge) Trevor -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq