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On 15 Jan 2014, at 22:05, bad apple <mr.meowski@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > If you're network is sufficiently big to actually need and roll out > WSUS, you've probably got a whole other bunch of Windows servers and > roles going on and likely have access to much better tools and toys, > like System Center, OpenView, Spice, etc. If the 2012r2 interface annoys > you that much why not just get a free download of ClassicShell? That'll > fix it to behave just like Win7 and earlier versions. Had you down as the kind of person to install WSUS when a second computer arrives on the network, given your "nothing changes without me authorising it" approach to system admin. What's the alternative you'd suggest for smaller networks? of Windows machines. Say the 0 to 50 desktops range. Microsoft say set a group policy to use Windows Update, which is probably sound advice for a small domain, with just regular boring desktops for Word-processing and Email, and little other infrastructure to break. Somewhere an admin is sticking Windows update monitoring into Nagios and cursing the vagaries of Powershell and Windows admin rights, but that is probably fine for the odd server inflicted on us by history, in a tightly controlled environment, where we just need the odd bit of Microsoft server software to work, and Nagios or similar is a given for the Linux or Unix side of thing. We'll know it needs patching, we'll do it manually, and test, and roll-out in a really small deployment (of Windows anyway). Even here WSUS is looking like it might have some benefits. I'm definitely not a Windows admin, so curious where folks go here, and how well it works. Microsoft seem to see the third party software update thing, as well as some improved management, as a revenue stream, which is perhaps where Linux distros went wrong, if Debian had a penny for every package I'd updated from their mirrors.... -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq