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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:49:42 +0000, Neil Winchurst <barnaby@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 14/11/13 17:14, Gordon Henderson wrote: >> >> Almost. >> >> Currently, most people have the modem and router combined into one box. >> Most people just call this a router, but it's really 2 things - the >> modem which turns the wibbly wobbly stuff on the wire into nice digital >> signals the router part can work with. The router does firewalling (if >> needed) and NAT and usually does DHCP and sometimes DNS too (and often >> Wi-Fi) - functions needed by PCs on your home network. You may need a >> new router unless your is one that provides a separate "wan" port. (Few >> consumer grade ones do) >> >> BT OpenReach, on behalf of your ISP, will change the faceplate and >> install a modem. This modem needs mains power. >> >> The modem will connect to your router via Cat-5 (Ethernet) cable. This >> cable can be up to 100m away from the modem. >> >>> My problem is that the main BT socket here is just inside the front >>> door, in our small entrance hall. I do have a phone connected there, >>> but there is just no room for a desk and computer. So I have my router >>> connected by a cable to a phone extension line in a room upstairs. Is >>> that going to cause a problem? >> >> Optionally, you can ask/persuade the BT man to move the socket. Provide >> cups of tea or coffee as requested and some nice biscuits. I think they >> can move it by up to 30m as part of the install, but it will depend on >> just how easy it is to route the cable. >> >> It sounds like it might be easy to leave the modem by the front-door, >> and run Cat-5 up to your room upstairs - and if that's already cat-5 >> then it's easy and BT don't have to move anything. Just make sure >> there's a mains socket near the phone socket for the modem. >> >> Gordon >> > Well, I have spoken to my ISP and a couple of others about the problem > of having my BT master socket where it is. Various ideas. > > I could have the new modem plus my router set up in the entrance hall > and run all my broadband via wifi. > You may need a new router. What router do you have currently? > I could have the master socket moved upstairs. Since there is already an > extension socket in the upstairs room (presumably cat-5) which I am > using at the moment this may be a reasonable suggestion. > Very very unlikely a phone extension will be on CAT5 cable, it's usually just the cheap telephone extension cable stuff which isn't suitable for networking (well not Ethernet anyway). Saying that, it might be possible to replace this cable with some CAT5 cable and have the modem downstairs and the router upstairs, you may be able to persuade the BT engineer to do this for you as part of the install maybe. IIRC the modem is wall mountable and it's not that big. > I could have the new modem downstairs linked by cable to the router > upstairs. > Ahh yeah just mentioned about that above. :-) > I could decide not to bother and stay as I am. > > I just did not expect it to be so complicated, though after all my years > working with computers I should have expected it. Ahh it's not that complicated really. What is complicated is getting cables to where you want them for a nice fast stable connection while also taking into consideration the Wife Acceptance Factor (WAF). My ex-wife wasn't so convinced about me replacing a coax TV connection with CAT5 cable. Luckily when we split up I got the CAT5 cable back (which is now running through a hole outside the house cable tied to the drain pipe and back in to the upstairs bedroom where the other cable TV connection comes in :-) (oh and I don't currently have a significant other to please, just a couple of daughters who would be more upset if we didn't have internet). Rob -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq