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On 26/06/13 20:09, bad apple wrote: <some stuff> Further to that last mail, I've just happened to cruise to El Reg who happen to have a rather timely article up: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/26/ssl_forward_secrecy/ Worth a read, certainly. Also reinforces my contention that if the spooks have the server signing keys (which they do) SSL is useless. Regards -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq