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On 01/05/13 20:01, Grant Phillips-Sewell wrote: > I do apologise, Mr Meowski, I hit reply in Gmail and typed without thinking. No problem, typical annoying default mail agent behaviour. You even have to set this manually in Thunderbird. > As I don't use Windows at all and very few of my customers have > Windows 8 (yet), I have not really looked into this very much. I came > across Pokki by chance; it looked interesting and useful. Classic > Shell, however, fulfills both my interest in finding for others a > potential resolution to the "Where's the Start Menu gone?" problem, > and my interest in recommending Open Source first. Thank you. :) Trust me on Pokki - it even comes with Instagram 'helpers' which I think probably tells you all you need to now about it. Generic crappy spyware type rubbish: avoid. But Classic Shell is an absolute must - as you say, it's a one-stop fix for the inevitable "where is my damned start menu" questions following a win8 upgrade and completely indispensable (works on Server 2012 too). There are some slicker alternatives but they both cost money and aren't open source, so Classic Shell wins by default. > That's funny... I've just gone through the "Upload file to Google > Drive" option in the browser version and it popped up a dialog box > asking about conversion. The Windows/Mac desktop/client software may > not support conversion, but Google Drive (in a browser) most certainly > does. Hmm... *goes off and checks* Well, holy crap, you're completely correct - my apologies. Never seen that before, but I'd not used the browser interface before, only 'grive' as a Linux CLI and the tray agent tools on Windows and Mac. I read this: http://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2407404 which seems to claim that you can convert outside of the browser interface by opening your Google Drive folder and right/option clicking on files therein as well but I just tried that on win7 and win8 VMs and it does not work as described (at all, actually). But I also tried through a browser for the first time and it did indeed act exactly as you described, so thanks. Still entirely unconvinced as to whether it's a good idea or not, I didn't actually let it convert any of my test files. Maybe I should have... > Ooh, another fun bit of software. Thank you again. :) > > Grant. No problem! This is as [OT] as it gets, but if anyone wants any more heads ups on Windows admin essential tools then just say. Just to get you started though: ninite.com (automated multi-installer) sysprep (essential admin deployment tool) sysinternals suite (legendary utilities collection) cygwin (linux sub-environment on windows) combofix (clean system) filehippo updater (update checker for non-system software) truecrypt (volume crypto, like LVM/LUKS on linux) WSUS offline (automated windows system update) Each one of those will save you pain every time you ever have to touch a windows machine. Set up the portable versions on a USB drive and/or network share and you can mount it on any windows box you'll ever touch and automate almost completely any major admin task. I do this so I can have more time doing stuff I enjoy, like playing on Linux. Regards -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq