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Pish pash posh. Afaicr it is: If companies want data, the user has to opt in. If companies want to share data, the user has to opt out (which will be changing). (This is on a universal basis but there arguments for an each-time basis). If the government want a user's data they have to tell the company and the user and get a warrant. The company has to give it over if they have it unencrypted (the validity of this is available to users). If a company has a breach of information it has to inform its users. If a company wants to store sensitive informatino (eg credit cards) it has to obtain a certification. Governments do not have access to such protected sensitive data This applies to at least Britain (and the US with British data on British servers but not with British data on US servers?? Don't know about that one.) Do let me know if any of this is different to what I thought it was. Cited examples are the breach of Play.com, last.fm, wikiileaks, assange, the blocking of the pirate bay, et al. Dan Dart _____ WEB DEVELOPER | SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATOR | BLOGGER | MUSICIAN http://dandart.co.uk On 30 April 2013 23:27, Julian Hall <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 30/04/2013 21:21, Martijn Grooten wrote: >> >> I just stumbled upon this: >> >> https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-2013 >> >> where the EFF (US-based digital rights group) gives start to Internet >> companies based on how they handle your private data and how willingly >> they hand over such data to the government. Leaving out those >> companies that aren't relevant here in the UK, Twitter gets most stars >> (6/6), MySpace the fewest (0/6). >> >> Martijn. >> > Interesting.. some of them give off a real mixed message, e.g. Yahoo; don't > require a warrant; don't inform users of requests; don't publish > transparency reports; don't publish law enforcement guidelines, but they DO > fight for user's rights in court; not in Congress. Comcast are similar, and > all Apple, Amazon and AT&T do is fight for user's rights in Congress (Amazon > in court too) while happily giving away all their data without a fuss. > > Julian > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq