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Re: [LUG] lug site

 

Hi All


On 6 Mar 2013, at 10:21, Simon Robert -Cottage wrote:

> On 06/03/13 10:51, Paul Sutton wrote:
>> On 06/03/13 09:40, Simon Robert -Cottage wrote:
>>> On 06/03/13 00:52, Paul Sutton wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> I have added a ceop report abuse button to the lug website on the main
>>>> page,   partly as this is in line with what a lot of other places are
>>>> doing and it shows we are committed as  group to protecting children and
>>>> vulnerable groups (which I assume as a group or individuals we are)
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>> sure have such a button on facebook or other social media sites where
>>> there may be an actual danger of grooming, but on the LUG site it
>>> smacks of unneeded posturing. Why not a notice saying the site
>>> contains no nuts (actually probably not true!) and is suitable for
>>> vegans as well...
>>> 
>>> I think sticking this button on sites to which it is irrelevant
>>> devalues the button and also makes it seem that there are worries that
>>> LUG members could use the site for grooming and other abusive
>>> activities. Having it prominently at the top just looks weird to me.
>>> Are there also buttons for things like financial fraud, malware,
>>> fishing etc., because if you're going to make a child abuse hotlink
>>> the first thing a user sees maybe other links should also be up there.
>>> 
>>> If you intend to keep it, stick it at the bottom of the page or a side
>>> panel or something...
>>> 
>>> S
>>> 
>> The same link appears on school websites it does NOT imply to that there
>> are bad people in the schools,   It is there so its another place where
>> one can go to find the link to report abuse etc.
>> 
>> As for moving it please feel free to log in and move it,  I am sick of
>> doing stuff on the site only to be criticised over something,
>> constructive stuff about a broken link is fine,  but this strikes me as
>> precisely why we need the link.
>> 
>> A few months ago I commented on the website and te need for it to be
>> improved, since then we have had a few blog posts,   and then it goes
>> quiet (granted people are busy) part the reason for this is the lock
>> down,   and difficulty people have in getting accounts,  I make a
>> contribution and seem to get bashed about it.,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> as for the comment in the other post
>> 
>> "
>> and still on the subject, doesn't such a link need some context about
>> what it is, is for, and what CEOPs is. This justs sits there at the top
>> of the page declaring "we are not in favour of child abuse" to those who
>> actually know what it is... If it's going to be there it must be
>> explained why it is there, how it can be used and so on... "
>> 
>> people know what CEOP is.  as I said there are links to ceop on school
>> websites and other related sites it's there as a gateway to reporting,
>> 
>> I have just added it to the site,  so hopefully we are yet another site
>> that shows we care, I thought Iw  was doing the right thing, clearly not
>> maybe therefore I should not bother adding more content to the site, I
>> am sick of being got at.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> 
> OK, sorry, whatever. But don't be so sure that CEOP is that well known, especially 
> seen in a context were it seems to be unexpected. I've heard of CEOPs as they turn 
> up on the Today prog on Radio 4, but I cannot recall ever having seen the button 
> before. So as the LUG site is not a school website and not social media frequented 
> by masses of young people I stand by what I said.
> 
> I guess we care about many terrible things that happen to people, but I am really 
> not sure why this issue should be singled out and why it should have a link. Why 
> not a link to sites to help women with violent partners or people with substance 
> abuse problems or the Samaritans?
> 
> So I know why you've done it but I still think it's strange up there at the top 
> with absolutely no explanation of what it is or why it's there on a site to which 
> it has only marginal relevance. But if you're that passionate about the subject 
> I'm not about to object.
> 

I must admit I agree with Simon on this one. If we're going to display the button, I 
think we ought to back it up with a reason why page. It does seem to stand as a bit 
unusual. If you go to the CEOP site there is plenty of resources that could be used 
to develop a page just stating why we display the badge.
---
Kind regards

Richard Brown
Youth Worker
Wild Woods Project
07747 343637
http://wild-woods.org.uk/



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