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Hehe. Yes, horses... Info, photos, scheduling of a dozen different things (worming, tetanus, homechecks, farriers, teeth). All kinds of reports, lists, general data manipulation, automatic letter printing etc. And the photos - that was a challenge. Now approaching 10,000 full size photos and 14GB. All organised automatically - rotated, flagged, resized (all perl) - and that's in the past three years since I added photo support to it, and a selection of the thumbs exported by rsync to the public site. To give you a taste, once a day part of the main horse db (one of several databases my system controls), exports to the public website of the charity and updates a mysql table, accessible here http://www.mareandfoal.org/about-us/horses/ (For all my talk of perl, this wordpress plugin was written in php) All our servers (I think 9, now, plus two more dl380's owned by a partner), including the vm for the public site, are running debian. I dabbled with Windows Server (SBS 2k7 I think) several times (they do significant charity discounts) but I found adminning Windows far, far more work and also more unintuitive - especially the security aspects. Not having any formal training, this learning curve was very steep and I eventually threw it away and carried on with samba which just works and continues working, day after day. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq