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On Nov 27, 2012, Migel Wimtore wrote: <snip> > rocking version 3 of IW/FF is mental, it is way out of date! > I think we should try to get to the bottom of this. I hadn't thought of a deep investigation; to begin with I just wanted to find out what everyone else does. I've learned a lot. This is what I have found. My wife's PC was behaving badly in several ways, of which iceweasel was only one, and I decided to install a new system. The PC has two disks so I got the latest distro from debian.org and installed it on the second disk. The version of iceweasel you get this way is the latest, which is 3.5.16. If I try to play a radio programme with iPlayer I just get "loading" and it goes to sleep. I tried epiphany and it says "It appears you need to install Flash". Tried "install now", you get a choice of yum, rpm or tar.gz. I d/l the tar.gz file and ran it as root with tar xzvf. Epiphany still says I need to install flash. m.dinsmore suggested that Google Chrome would run iPlayer with no trouble. I installed Chrome (stable i386) and libcurl3. It says "You need to install Flash" and when I probed further it admitted that Flash is built-in but is disabled. "To enable Flash go to the tech note". I went to the tech note but it said nothing about how to enable built-in Flash. Matt suggested mozilla.debian.net and this says that the standard iceweasel is hopelessly out of date and is not supported any more and you need the release version. I added the two lines about squeeze-backports to /etc/apt/sources.list and tried again. I now have iceweasel version 10 so with a light heart I tried iplayer again and it just says "loading" and goes to sleep. Sigh. Nigel suggested Flash-Aid and I have not tried that yet. Partly because I don't have IW any more; I tried to restore the bookmarks by overwriting bookmarks.html and this killed it. I'll try more things when I get it back. get-iplayer looks really good. It is very comprehensive and powerful and I shall enjoy spending time getting to know it. As a postscript I can always listen again to radio programmes on my laptop which runs (hush) Windows XP. Tony -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq