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On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Rob Beard wrote:
I'm going to speak to a couple of businesses in the area and see if there would be any interest as the costs they're looking at are in the region of £50k (probably because there is fibre already there so they don't have to put as much in). Then there is the issue of planning permission (the cabinet is about a foot bigger than a BT cabinet).
It's never stopped BT charging in the past... And they've refused to run data for different customers down the same fibre run in the past...
It would probably be cheaper to run your own leased line from an ISP in (e.g.) Bristol to the cabinet and distribute it from there.
However if you want to unbundle your own cabinet, then you need planning permission from the council, the actual cabinet and workmen to dig it in, electricity to the cabinet, UPSs to keep it going, then BT will charge a lift & shift for each customer you wire in - and I'm told it must be done by a BT open reach engineer...
Price wise - last 10Mb circuit I put in in Bristol (a year ago) was: 10M un-contended Internet connection, Connection £2505.00 Annual Rental £8500.00 20Mb un-contended Internet connection on 100Mb bearer Connection £4755.00 Annual Rental £9900.00Now that's in Bristol and the fibre run was only a few miles and there are more operators than BT who'll sell you dark fibre - what you really pay for is distance, (both in setup and line rentals) so it would be intersting to see what the quote would be for NA to Bristol :) It would be better if there was an ISP with a POP in NA, but I fear that's unlikely - maybe Exeter, but I only know of one - soon as you get to Bristol you're spoilt for choice.
At one point this ISP (good friends of mine) had (cheap!) fixed-rate deals for 2Mb lines to their POP in London from anywhere in England too - not sure if they're still doing that though, or if they've moved to 10/100Mb circuits...
I thought it might be of some interest to other folks on the list anyway as it sounds like it's not that excessive to get something like this installed if there is enough interest and fibre already available. It sounds like to make it viable for them without having to spend so much they would need around 700 subscribers on a line.
Getting people to pay is the hard part - that's partly how the Wi-Fi broadband system I build failed - we had 150 people who promosed to pay... Then when we went commercial only 50 actually put their hands in their pocket. Get cash up-from and a yearly contract is what I say!!!
Gordon
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