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Re: [LUG] DIY fibre

 

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Rob Beard wrote:

They can't - it's "up to" 24Mb to the houses, so they have a mini ADSL2+
DSLAM in their cabinet. So that initially provides a degree of protection.

According to ThinkBroadband it's VDSL2 (so up to 40 Meg)...

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4212-fibre-optic-broadband-in-rural-areas-lyddington.html

OK. I got that from their website - 2nd panel on the right:

 http://www.rutlandtelecom.co.uk/

however the panel above that does suggest they have VDSL... I suspect that might for for the future :)

I presume the idea is that not everyone will be downloading large ISOs
etc at the same time.

I think the idea is that it's a village of old fuddy duddy businessmen
who won't know what an ISO is ...

True, maybe the usage might be more limited to iPlayer, e-mail and web browsing then.

However, the monthly cap is 10GB for £30 (which includes the phone line
rental)

Not much for the money, but I guess it has to be limited to make it fairer for everyone and cover the costs.

It's the only way it's sustainable.

Yep, there are some high resoluton pics on the ThinkBroadband site, one of the commentards (sorry been reading El Reg) seems to think that the fibre is provided by BT. So I wonder how much of the cost of it was just for the fibre?

Depends on the distance & where it's going - last fibre I had anything to do with cost the punter:

20Mb un-contended Internet connection on 100Mb bearer

Connection              £4755.00
Annual Rental           £9900.00

But that was in Bristol 6 months ago. (and included the Internet connection, plus fibre rental, etc.) the fibre was run by BT, but BT didn't supply the internet - it was just a point to point link across Bristol. The 20Mb limit was a throttle applied by the ISP - nice as it gives the punter the ability to go right up to 100Mb when they need it.

Still proves it can be done, maybe it's possibly more economically viable for some of the bigger providers to do this (in fact I'm sure I've read before that one or two ISPs have offered to do things like this if they can get the funding, one of them might have even been Rutland Telecom).

It'll always boil down to money in the end - in Buckfastleigh we got close to 150 people who signed a bit of paper to say they'd have it, then only 50 actually forked up the money - we did it, but went tits-up (more than once!) After 18 months of struggling, I ran it personally for the final 6 months until BT enabled the exchange - which was actually a bit of a relief at the time as I was fed-up with the continual battles with just 2 abusers who'd take down the entire network with their p2p traffic )-:

I did end up throttling the abusers, but managed to get something that was almost acceptable by giving the known abusers almost no priority on all their traffic, so everyone else doing "normal" stuff got a fair share of the net, but the abusers could get full-speed when no-one else was doing anything. Lots of time pouring over iptables, and linux traffic shaping runes... It wasn't perfect due to the nature of the network, but was mostly OK. I'd do it that way again, plus monthly caps if I were running a network.

Gordon
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