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Re: [LUG] OT:Agricultural Census 2010

 

tom wrote:
> richard wrote:
>> tom wrote:
>>  
>>> Eion MacDonald wrote:
>>>    
>>>> tom wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>      
>>>>> I mismanage a smallholding and have just had some stuff through from
>>>>> Defra re the 2010 Agricultural Census. This is meant to be a full
>>>>> census
>>>>> of farming in the UK for the EU and will presumably go towards policy
>>>>> and grants etc.
>>>>> They are planning NOT to ask farms below a certain size for
>>>>> information!!!!
>>>>> I cant think of a better way of skewing the information in favour of
>>>>> agri-business and away from higher productivity small units.
>>>>> Tom  having a major fume!
>>>>>
>>>>>             
>>>> An  economic study in 1980s, ( and the economist was my boss man) the
>>>> study found that 'productivity' was inversely proportional to
>>>> 'apparent
>>>> site size' except in monoculture systems, these could not be indexed
>>>> properly as damage long term was catastrophic (dust bowls
>>>> etc)outside 50
>>>> year records as repeat events.
>>>> A real damnation of 'collective farm system' in soviet side and was
>>>> used
>>>> to show allotments or family vegetable gardens (UK style when family
>>>> managed) had high productivity! However productivity of allotments in
>>>> 1980s was below that in 1940s but with more varied crops.
>>>>         
>>> What really got me about it is if the threshold is ( say) 50 acres
>>> then france would have 10 farms.
>>> The EU will use the information when setting grant levels and the UK
>>> will get practically nothing.
>>> The excuse they gave was so as not to encumber the smaller farmer.
>>> More like can find anyone to write a really simple online database
>>> that one could spend 2 minutes inputting the data.
>>> Tom te tom te tom
>>>     
>>  I think the idea is to survey people who make a living from farming, or
>> try to, not including units which are probably subsidised from other
>> income. While it is often true that small units can be more intensive
>> who wants to work for below minimum wage? (if you do I can find you
>> something to do! )
>>   
> many many people do work part time on farms - they have other jobs. On
> the farm next door to me - some 300 acres altogether - most of the
> family have other jobs, shal we ignore them too?
> What this will mean is that we WONT know. Tom te tom te tom
>
did they say what the minimum size was? 50 acres would be a viable veg
farm,  but  if  policy is made to suit retired accountants with a couple
of llamas would that be a good thing?
 it is a damming engagement of agricultural policy over the last 30
years that your neighbours have to have other jobs in order to make a
living in the only really essential industry in the world.

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