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Hello I have been having problems printing with OOo for a while but some, new files, work OK. I just did a small .odt file which I had saved. However, it has also taken to crashing. It seems to revive OK if I ask it to recover files. However, once I try to save a .ods file, it hangs up. Killing the process does not work either. The minimise button does not work and the top line stays up, covering any application underneath. I can create this email. However I have an unuseable copy on the desktop as well - control seems to have gone. Before I reboot, and open OOo without attempting to recover (there is only a little work to redo) can anyone guide me to the error log so I can offer more detail? Thanks James -- james kilty http://www.kilty.demon.co.uk -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html