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When I was a kid... I used a thing that allowed you to plug two modems into each other and effectively connect so you could pretend to be an ISP or whatever. Anyone seen one about anywhere? Its either that or diving into the box from hell* for my parallel cable and PPP ing down that... Tom te tom te tom * does anyone know why a box of cables, left completely undisturbed, turns into a Gordian knot no matter how you pack them? -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html