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My Vigor 2800VG is sitting in a box. Why? Because it still has numerous faults that still haven't been fixed or won't be fixed by Draytek, such as the lack of multicast support, wireless is awful, the ADSL chipset has problems with maxdsl on some lines (BT will not accept a fault from an ISP if a draytek 2800 is involved), there are problems with dns, it cannot properly traceroute, it needs rebooting sometimes, it reboots itself sometimes, QoS does nothing, and that's just the stuff off the top of my head. Draytek either claim that none of these faults exist, or they say they will fix it, and newer firmwares don't fix it or break other things. They are useless. And it's not just my opinion either - see the draytek UK forum. I got a Cisco 827 for cheap on ebay. Sure it takes a lot of configuring and learning but I'm impressed at how well it just works. Shaun Charlie BT wrote: > I would advise a Vigor Draytek every time althougth a little more > expensive that most it's a very good router with excellent facilities. If > cost is a factor then its got to be a Netgear 834g. > > Cheers > Charlie > > > -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html