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Lug description How about We support the spirit and ethos of free and open source software community in relaxed non judgemental or discriminatory environment. Encouragfe new and experienced users alike to learn from each other, to produce better software for all. may have to change the wording a bit but its a start Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html