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zleap wrote: > Ok next lug meet can someone can bring a windows vista box (if they have > one) along, and a hub, we can connect it to a bunch of Linux boxes adn > see if we can er hack into it, or at least see what all the fuss is about, > > I am sure a bunch of computer linux / unix users can find some sort of > exploit, > > rules, the box must be installed as is, with out modification to the > security system, and we can see if there are the usual open ports, or > something we can take advantage of, > You don't need a meeting for that. Get a vanilla Vista box and go to www.grc.com , run the 'Shields Up' tests and that will tell you everything you need to know about open and closed ports. Ideally Stealth ports where the machine itself can't even be detected are best. If ti can be seen by a hacker then chances are they will see it as a challenge, however if it can't even be seen there's no target for them to even try to get into. One is like shooting at a target with a blanket over it - if you hit the blanket you've hit the target - somewhere. The other is like being blindfolded and spun around first. You may know there's a target out there somewhere but your chances of hitting it are slim at best. Kind regards, Julian -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html