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Simon, I'm with eclipse and I heartily recommend you. There was some discussion in the DVLUG list a while ago with someone migrating from eclipse because they did not answer the phone at the weekend. I found that when they do answer you don't get told that all their operators are busy and they know something about Linux. So you could check on the level of support to see whether it is enough. Tony Sumner -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html