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On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 20:24 +0000, George Parker wrote: > Thanks for all the feedback guys (aren't there any gals out there?) Lots of > nuggets to mine and incorporate. I have given up on Debian (3.1) for the > time being. If you have no GUI installer then you have to use a shell. Too > many issues for the time being. I see there is a GUI for APT in Debian 4 > but it will have to wait. > Hi George - I'm "a gal" - well, maybe not a gal anymore but, female, anyway ! Does this mean I'm the only one ??? > I too have sat on a phone and walked customers through their problems with > windows and it's apps, and I don't think they are stupid. With the hesitant > ones it starts with them being terrified to touch the keyboard in case > something breaks. But this soon goes and the questions get sensible. And > now there are literally millions of users out there who do know their way > around Windows. The difficulty is in persuading them to jump through the > Linux hoops, no matter how much they dislike the Windows experience and > ethos. Too much choice for the simple user probably :-). > > Since starting this thread I installed Kubuntu 6.1 and royally screwed up my > Mepis setup. Hey ho, back to the drawing board. I also notice that that > the next release of Ubuntu, frig-about fawn or something, will contain many > more proprietary drivers to ease us beginners lot. They are, naturally, > being slated for sullying the purity of GNU Linux dih dah dih dah dih dah.. > I come down on the side of those who follow open source where possible, but > hey, life's too short to be an angel, that comes next. (So many pubs, so > little time.) > As a newbie, I have also had a number of issues. 1 tip I have is to set up a multi boot system and use 1 set up just for testing. I have a largish hard drive and have 4 partitions. 1 completely empty (for testing new distros), 1 with Ubuntu 6.10 for testing other things and one with Kubuntu 6.10 which I use as my main desktop. I have Windows on a separate drive but, it's on my grub menu (for the few things I still need it for). Now, if I want to try something out, I do it on the test partition that I can re-install if it all goes horribly wrong. > Software I forgot and didn't get a mention is Family History apps. I am > trying Gramps, which seems to be the only kid on the block, and quite > enjoying it. It has come a long way in a couple of years. Much simpler than > The Master Genealogist but that may not be a bad thing. I'm not a > professional genealogist and you can spend too much time playing with app > and not the data, and TMG aren't interested in open source. > > And the one big thing that is still stopping me switching off my XP install > is that I can't get Desktop Sudoku running in Linux. It's for my wife you > understand, not me. She is addicted. This was why I tried Wine which I > have got working with some things. But Desktop Sudoku has a space in the > name which you can get around manually but I think the install programme > puts in the space and screws up Wine. And I can't find a replacement > programme as good. Anybody looking for a project?... > > So back to Mepis to get it working to actually do some work rather than this > quite addictive distro hopping. Although you do learn from it, if only you > can remember what you learn. > > BTW, I find the online magazine TUX great for my level of experience, very > desktop orientated. > > See you all at the get together tomorrow > I hope you all have a good meeting. Sorry I can't make it but, Paignton is a bit too far for an evening. > George > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html