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I've been playing with NVU and cobbled a few documents together on the Paperless Office (and associated logical extensions) with it. http://www.100297.itsosbroadband.co.uk/Paperless/Index_for_the_Paperless_Office.html all my own bigotted ideas but any feedback would be welcome (Off list...). As for NVU - well its not too bad but needs some work, but you can cobble together stuff relatively easily. It needs a few more TAGs adding but you can edit the html and it doesn't seem to tear it apart or add useless metadata. Not sure about the templates but thats next... Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html