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www.pilot-link.org From here here read up on the status of the life drive support. Have you changed dev/pilot to dev/ ttyUSBxx ? As Neil says the command line tools have been updated for newer versions of palms but the latest model features are incomplete ! Perhaps you might like to look at the option of putting linux on it instead. The alpha is out now & the beta is coming along nicely. Ray. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html