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my netgear is working alright with apt-get. Avoid the zoom X5 - they leave ports 254 and 255 open by default StuartD ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html