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Given that the value of the certificates seems to be to secure email from my webhost to me, and not for any third party access. Where can I get these certificates from? (Apart from that is paying Thawte or Verisign or BT for them). I have tried one other site and have been told "SSL encryption is for rocket scientists and is not needed", which does not fill me with much enthusiam. The site was however strongly recommended by a reliable source and certainly the service was good and cheap. Finally what webhost do you use that does offer this service? -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html