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Come to think of it .. the entire Viacode citizen certification project, which I was part of[1], was for 5 million users and only used a million quids worth of kit, including all the firewalls and public web sites, directory, databases, PKI, and all. It was so massively redundant, nothing less than a bomb would have killed it, and that would have only been for 24 hours. I wanted it cross site clustered, but oh no! I'd love to see a price breakdown for that NHS budget. Steve [1] parp! -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.