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On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 05:02:03PM +0000, dcnlx via list wrote: > The current push for National ID Cards has only one purpose - enhanced data > collecting. As was previously mentioned there already exists government photo ID - > Drivers Licence and Passport are just two examples. As long ago as 1980 when I > first worked in the US a drivers licence included the holders Social Security > number. If one did not drive a drivers licence was issued but without driver > privileges. Add our National Insurance to the drivers licence there's simple > access to say law enforcement to a central government data base. No need for a > Government App on your personal smart phone. The drive for apps by almost every > entity ( supermarkets .......... LIdl's parent company has started a AWS rival ) > is NYC - know your customer. An app gives enhanced data harvesting capabilities, > useful for far more than Meta et all's marketing antics. Almost all phones cannot > be turned off. With BLE your data continues to be collected without a Sim or > internet connection. > Data collected by our Government is not secure. Look at the major breaches for > just this year. > Palantir ( they of Cambridge Analitica fame ) provides IT services for UK > Government, Armed Services and GCHQ. Search Starmer Mandelson Palantir visit. > Shortly after that March 3rd occasion Palantir were given a 330 million pound > contract to provide NHS IT services. > Google has now introduced four factor verification of phones in order for the > phone to be able to access Playstore Apps, in other words only an identifiable > phone approved by them. AOSP > no longer allows input from independent devs, only from Google development staff. > The source code is only available after each update is published. IOS is obviously > completely controlled. So in order to have a mandatory Government ID you will be > forced to pay for a short life and ever increasing price and give your money to a > foreign duopoly for compulsory phone type. And surrender your data to them. The > universal excuse is always increased security. Which equals hand over more of your > money. > Duncan Baker https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/identity-proofing-and-verification-of-an-individual/how-to-prove-and-verify-someones-identity Something simpler would be great -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG FAQ: https://www.dcglug.org.uk/faq/