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Re: [LUG] DVB-S via old Sky Disk [Linux + tvheadend]

 



Not everyone's cup of tea I know, but I am currently using one of these - http://www.zgemma.co.uk/

With software from here (Debian-based) - http://www.techkings.org/resources/

In turn, in another room in the house, one can point the Pi at it, (ie running OSMC/Kodi/Etc,etc) and effectively duplicate all of the sat receiver's functionality)

It's kind-of fun, very easy to use. The wife took to it like a duck to water, which is always a bonus. Additionally, one is not restricted to closed file formats for the recordings etc (I tend to use Transport Stream for example), which in turn can be rendered by any good media player, and one can also look at/watch m3u streams directly broadcast from it........and more besides......





On 11/04/17 23:05, mr meowski via list wrote:
On 11/04/17 11:35, Simon Avery via list wrote:
Hi Mr M

I've run two tuners on Freesat since it started, and Freeview before
that (Unfortunately, the digital switchover completely destroyed
freeview signal in my area, so freesat was the only non-commercial
option!)  Luckily I had an old 80cm dish knocking around from earlier
geeky fiddles to get european TV and improve my German (which works
fine, but I got bored once it was working and never did learn the language)

Drivers are a pain for my card, needing a manual rebuild for each
kernel, and the software is mythtv and mythweb. The latter for
everything but configuring so it's a remote server.

Myth is of the old school - somewhat unfriendly devs, cliquey support,
arcane setups and not user friendly to configure. But it's the best I've
found which records as straight MPGs (and I use a script to rename them
to human-readable, since I playback from the filesystem, rather than by
myth itself)

The best guide I've found for freesat and myth is here, which has the
required frequencies; http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_freesat.php

There are windows alternatives too, of course - some quite good, if you
can avoid the not-good and adware-riddled ones, or pay a lot. I've not
kept pace with those so can't say what's good.

On 10 April 2017 at 00:50, Steven CÃtà via list <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

         >Does anyone know for sure if an old Sky dish (as in, Sky ceased
         >provisioning the paid service X years ago but left all the kit in place)
         >can provide a working output that can be fed into a Linux machine?


     I've run a MythTV box off an old Sky installation for years. So
     yeah, it definitely should work without modification. Basically,
     Freesat is just the branding for a tuner that pulls in all the
     unencrypted channels on the Sky satellites and bundles them up with
     a digital tv guide (that's not strictly true, but it's close enough
     for this conversation).

     If you have a scan running and it's reporting back anything
     positive, then the frequencies it's reporting should work. Having
     said that, even if you specifically only ask for unencrypted tv
     channels, some cruft usually gets through, so restrict testing to
     channels that you know exist.
Thanks for the replies - I'm pretty sure there's something wrong with
the dish setup here then, which is unsurprisingly where most of my
testing has been happening for convenience reasons. I'll try what I
believe *should* be a fully working DVB-S equipped RPi at a couple of
other places where I suspect it'll work. One friend currently has a
crappy old FreeSat STB still in service so that would be the obvious
candidate to try as I can be 100% sure they at least have a functional
feed to test with.

I was a long time mythtv guy as well and know the parker1 site well but
over the years it's become increasingly difficult to wrestle into
submission so I've been looking for a long time for something Linux
based (no nasty proprietary Windows crapware or Media Centers) that I
could use to replace it Myth as a backend, abstracting all the front end
logic away and leaving something preferably newer, more advanced and a
bit more future proofed. Ideally something that would also scale down to
being deployed on a RPi3, even one already busy doing other things -
which is how I got to tvheadend.

Why do you insist on mpgs by the way? I'm guessing you need that for
commercial detection/skipping plugins? tvheadend will do that as well
(either/and record to mpg/cut ads). If you've got a spare RPi or Linux
VM and a USB tuner card or two I highly recommend checking it out!

Cheers


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