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On 09/04/17 12:09, Neil via list wrote: > Last year Linux celebrated its 25th birthday. I have been using Linux > exclusively for 17 years. Yet even after all that time it is still > difficult to find a computer that was built from scratch to be used with > Linux. > > There are one or two companies, such as Dell, which provide computers > with Linux already installed. I know that. But I think that it is just a > sideline for them and not taken really seriously. And they are > expensive. And I wonder how much time and effort they put in to making > sure they will work well with Linux. > > Another option is to use a company such as pcspecialist, zoostorm or > novatech. They will send you a computer with no OS installed. This means > that you do not have the problem of paying the Windows licence fee or of > trying to get a refund. But what do you really get? A computer that was > built for Windows, tested on Windows, but just with no OS installed. In > my experience there is no effort to check that it will work with Linux. > You are on your own. If it has an nvidia graphics card, for example, you > may well have problems getting it to work. > > So I was very pleased, and surprised this week to come across a company > which was set up to provide computers with Linux both installed and > tested, although this really means Ubuntu. The company is called > entroware [1] and they are a UK company, somewhere in the Liverpool > area. Anyway I have been looking at their site and reading some reviews. > It seems that they have nothing to do with Windows, and they set up and > test their machines with Ubuntu installed. Or you can have one without > any OS if you want. > > So, I think that this should be supported and encouraged. Anyway, it may > be new to some of you, and I hope you find it interesting, > > > Neil > > [1] https://www.entroware.com > > > Further to the previous answer to https://fossbytes.com/teres-i-open-source-diy-laptop-linux/ ARM BASED : Allwinner Quad Core A64 ARM Cortex-A53 Is another option in the works :) -- http://www.zleap.net diaspora : zleap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx sign up at : https://joindiaspora.com/users/sign_up Torbay Tech Jam http://torbaytechjam.org.uk Next Tech jam Saturday 13th May 2017 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq