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Rob Beard wrote:
Server Core is the GUI -less 2008 server and if you are looking for a cheap quad core server with half decent build quality then check out HP's ML115 - Quad core 2.1 Opteron (with all 3 cache working and none of that FSB nonsense!), onboard Raid (0,1,5 ...) upto 8GB EEC Ram (you can use non EEC tho) and it will take 4x SATA/SAS drives all in a workstation sized case.-original message- Subject: Re: [LUG] wowsa four cores for £76 From: Gordon Henderson <gordon+dcglug@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: 18/09/2009 13.00 On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, tom wrote:I buy what suits the system at the time. Currently AMD are lagging in terms of performace per watt - and that's something that very important right now. (with the exception of the Geode, but they didn't design that initially)I only buy Intel if there is NO other choice.I you want performance per watt then surely ARM is the only way to go!There's a trade-off between bang per buck/bang per watt and usability.Right now there isn't a server solution based on ARM or I'd be using it today....However, it's coming: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/09/16/1527209 2GHz ARM ...But what I want is a good solid processor with good software support and no overloaded/bloated graphics hardware!Your average LAMP server doesn't use much CPU at all - it's mostly IO - stupid CPU usage like decoding SQL instructions is about the most it's going to do - until the muppets decide that resizing icons on the fly is a good idea though )-: Had a server crippled by that recently until they installed some caching. Weenies who never did any computer science - "Oh, it's slow, lets throw more hardware at it". <mutter> And get off my lawn while yer at it!Gordon ---- That's the Windows way of thinking. Whack a nice GUI on there (or even a horrid GUI) just to run a web server. I gather with Windows Server 2008 it is possible to run Windows without the GUI and manage it from a remote machine (although I gather the management tools still use a GUI). I'm hoping they bring out a cheap Mini ITX sized motherboard with this ARM chip on and enough graphics oompth to run HD video so I can finally have a low power media box which will hopefully not cost the earth. Rob Rob
You can pick these up for under £250!I have installed several of them and would recommend sticking a seperate SATA controller in them tho(adaptec AR2610xx is my pref) as the onboard one is a bit lame when dealing with Linux - work fine with Windows 2008 tho.
Not a bad piece of kit for less than the price of a workstation and ... yes they work ok as one of those as well - very quiet!
IIRC the CPU pulls about 75 watts - which isn't too bad for a quad core Dave -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html