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On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 19:10 +0100, Zleap wrote: > Hi > > I have just upgraded to lenny and my internet is broken, ie no connection i > have a few other problems as well can some one perhaps log in to irc and see > if they can help. > > it seems there is an issue with network manager FTR, there was an issue with network-manager, it had become (possibly partially) uninstalled. Never did find out what Paul had done for it to get into that state but possibly an interrupted upgrade. /etc/init.d/network-manager didn't exist so it wasn't surprising that network-manager couldn't start. > can anyone help > > I have 2 computers, both are configured for dhcp and both go via the router, So, in brief, we fixed it by using a static IP on the broken box because the rest of the network support on the machine (and the router) was working fine. A few tweaks to /etc/resolv.conf (the router didn't have DNS itself so it always pays to only ever comment out existing lines) and the network was fully usable again. apt-get -f install and apt-get install network-manager did the rest. As with most of these issues, there was no need to reinstall the OS (there hardly ever is with a Debian-based distro). The problem was a reliance on a tool that became broken and not knowing the specific commands to setup the backup static IP from the command line. (That and the fact that a specialised package had been installed that was not fully configured but which was interfering with the fix - (resolvconf in this case) - because its own configuration was incomplete. "Just install everything" is *not* a viable choice, especially with system/network tools.) Oh, and knowing how to setup a static IP via a different GUI does not count. Don't rely on the GUI, learn how to do the GUI stuff from the command line. There are a thousand different ways that the GUI can break but you always have the command line - even if it is only the temporary shell within the installer. $ man ifconfig $ man route $ man resolv.conf This is the problem with packaging an OS that "just works" - when the fancy GUI stuff stops working, people need to know how to fix the magic. -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/
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