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On Sunday 28 October 2007 09:00, Rob Beard wrote: > Tom Potts wrote: > > On Saturday 27 October 2007 18:17, tom wrote: > >> Tom Potts wrote: > >>> http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7063716.stm > >>> on Microsoft in schools > >>> points out the any machine that could run M$ has to be licensed - > >>> so you give em a linux machine and M$ gets paid for it. > >>> Tom te tom te tom > >> > >> I have to laugh (or is that cry ?) more than 5 years ago a small school > >> in America said to Microsoft "I'm not signing that" and initiated the > >> K12LTSP project ( "LTSP for schools). > >> > >> K12LTSP is now used in schools throughout the world (notably ones where > >> legal ownership of MS products is out of reach). > >> > >> Why are we Brits so stupid, apathetic and lazy .... If Becta had got its > >> Arse in gear 5 years ago we would have an open source culture in > >> schools and start to see a more clued up workforce potential, no far > >> better to let American companies tie us up with extortionate leagalise > >> and kill our own innovative workforce stone dead...... > > > > but you cant allow other countries to innovate in order to give the > > illusion that US economics works - if we Brits were allowed to innovate > > then we'd outstrip the US economy in weeks. Competition would destroy > > 'market economics'. > > The US have sent us all kinds of marketing and business management Gurus > > to train us since WWII and now we have a management and entrepreneurial > > class that couldn't shoot pork bellies in a barrel. Nice things like > > Quality Management from Japan are taught by US Gurus and implemented by > > US taught management teams and dont work here after that.... > > > > You get projects like K12LTSP because the US pushes its illusion of > > democracy to a lower level - get people to argue over who runs their > > schools and who is chief of police and let the big business run the rest > > of the country. When, with the internet, small things can get > > surprisingly big this takes certain 'democratic' models by surprise. > > The internet is almost by nature an economically, politically and > > scientifically disruptive force. > > There are many other forces at large that realise this and think its in > > their best interests to keep us in the computing dark ages. > > Tom te tom te tom > > > >> Arrrgh ..... why do I bother......... > > > > have THEY managed to disillusion another into innaction? > > > >> Tom. > > There is some hope... http://stephen-walder.blogspot.com/ > > I still think it's wrong though what Microsoft are saying with the > licensing scheme. Does it cover just PCs or anything that is classed as > a computer? Say an old BBC Micro if the school have any left in > cupboards etc? I think it covers anything capable of running windows/office so a 286 upwards -or mor importantly anything that can run Linux - a Beeb might not be covered but you'd have to read the smallprint Tom te tom te tom > > That would be interesting seeing Vista boot on a BBC Micro. > > Rob -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html