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Hi Robin and all. Great, both lappy and desktop are working fine on the wireless LAN. I have sorted out a problem for a fellow railway modeller in the US (Java, Ubuntu and rxtx!) and finally as a result of the number of chaps using my write up on intalling JMRI on Ubuntu (at least 2) Bob J has invited me to do a proper installation write up. JMRI http://jmri.sourceforge.net/ Bob https://photos.sun.com/asset/6265?returnPage=/page/1061 Thanks All Peter -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html