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On 17/06/2021 21:50, Paul Sutton via list wrote: > On 17/06/2021 14:25, Michael Everitt wrote: >> See below (per netiquette)... >> >> On 17/06/2021 13:25, Simon Waters wrote: >>> First I'd like to thank Paul for his work on the website, and for his >>> other >>> work organising and promoting the group, and hope he will continue in >>> both. >>> >>> We've had a number of threads over the years about the website, but >>> the upshot >>> has generally been a burst of interest, and then it has gradually >>> declined >>> until it is just or mostly Paul again. We've had contributions from >>> Ron and >>> Matthew this year, otherwise all the posts on the website are from >>> Paul, and >>> they cover everything from NCSC hardening guidance for Ubuntu LTS to >>> local >>> coding events. The content is relevant, interesting, and contributed >>> consistently by Paul. >>> >>> I'm as guilty of leaving it to Paul as others, possibly more so, as >>> whilst >>> I've sorted the occasional problem, I've left Paul without the >>> benefits of any >>> relevant experience I may have most of the time. I also have outstanding >>> maintenance activities relating to the site to do. >>> >>> That said the current criticism seems to be based on aesthetics, and the >>> belief that because a product is owned by Microsoft it must be >>> inherently evil >>> (although most geeks seem to except GitHub for some reason). >>> >>> (No I've not seen the site on a 4K monitor, and I'm pretty sure Paul >>> won't >>> have either, feel free to email screenshots to admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - >>> I know >>> the heading text scales up rather keenly on my monitor at full size). >>> >>> The WordPress tracker is the only tracker, and the only statistics >>> provided to >>> anyone on the website (since my own log analysis code fell into >>> disrepair). My >>> browser (Brave) blocks this tracker by default, an approach I suggest >>> to those >>> who are worried about being tracked on the web. >>> >>> The website doesn't pull in huge numbers of views, so I don't think >>> it merits >>> huge attention. It was being used to update various social media >>> sites about >>> activities of the group, and I think that is a reasonable use, and >>> something >>> that the current tooling allows. >>> >>> If we want the group to thrive, we need to organize more meetings & >>> events, at >>> which point the tooling to support them will I'm sure receive more >>> love and >>> attention. We've always taken a relaxed (anarchic?) approach to >>> organising >>> meetings, any member can organise a meeting, and promote it through the >>> mailing list, and the website. Since meetings are currently largely >>> virtual >>> this doesn't even require a room (which was the usual problem with >>> organising >>> physical meetings). Although best to co-ordinate these, usually >>> Paul was >>> that co-ordinator, as he could say when other meetings that might >>> conflict were >>> taking place, and I hope he is happy to continue doing that. >>> >>> More generally we may have too many groups and social media sites, >>> with too >>> little content. Again the best fix for that is for other people to help >>> organise events or contribute relevant content. >>> >> I've offered to help Paul out in the past, and he gave me a logon, >> which I still >> have. Alas, when I started looking at ways to change theme, etc, I >> don't have the >> admin privileges to make structural changes to the site. Since then, >> my time has >> become somewhat more precious, but if there are specific changes that >> are desired, >> I'm happy to dive in and poke things. I'm doing some webadmin work for >> another >> project, so effort wouldn't be wasted .. >> >> Without prejudice, I know that seabass has become quite an active >> community member >> here, and has been regularly updating the IRC channel information with >> meeting times, >> etc, and perhaps might like to contribute too, if he had an >> 'editor'/etc such role, >> as time/etc permits? Throwing out an invite to contribute rather than >> chucking the >> poor fella under the bus, but I think as a team we might be able to do >> some >> improvements, even if Paul remains the 'main man' so-to-speak... >> >> WDYT?! >> >> > Hi all > > I don't have a problem adding content, in fact just added a post for the > July meeting, scheduled for July 1st. I am happy to still do that. > Hopefully physical meetings can resume soon too. > > What we have determined, is that we need a small team of people to help > handle the admin, choose a fresh theme (which we are discussing on > #DCGLUG-website, we then need to add more content. Either pages or > posts. So we need to work out what we want from content for example. > > I guess within that we need content that would suit beginners, > intermediate and advanced users. But should that be general IT stuff too? > > How do / can we make that more engaging, should there be a 'template' as > such for posts, so they look more uniform or at least have some 'core' > information for example such as a link back to the website ? > > In terms of meetings:- > > I am still be involved in code club (or will be), and a tech jam type > event in Paignton. > > We probably need to decide on what we would like, I agree with Simon we > need more physical meets / events. > > So lets all work together and make the LUG more attractive to people. > > Hope this helps and thank you. > > Regards > > Paul > > > Thank you for this post. I do appreciate the work you do and have done; and I hope will continue to do. For beginners, or those trying to get older machines to be up to date and safe (Visa era Windows machines to work - my old pupils with a very finite horizon in time to death (like myself, well past mortality average tables) - do not spend on *new* computers, but want repair to OS to work. Here Linux distros fit the bill. I might make some suggestions, if wanted, however it will take time, based on how I set up the oldies on current software in aged machines. It fits our 'repair' not throw away principles to help the economy and the earth's resources. However *off-topic* I also teach how to 'rescue' Windows machines; some only want that. But both are necessary; to get folk to listen to Windows stuff (they know what that is) and *gently* say there is an alternative for your machine and your machine use. -- Regards Eion MacDonald -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dcglug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq